Welcome to our latest episode!
Join Bronson Hill on the Mailbox Money Show for a replay of the “Creative Real Estate Financing” webinar, diving deep into today’s challenging market and the innovative strategies operators are using to scale, fund, and thrive despite liquidity crunches, maturing debt, and shifting sentiment.
Panel:
Cody Davis
Youngest operator owning hundreds of units; shares his journey from zero-down seller-financed multifamily to scaling via owner relationships, 1031 exchanges into Class B/A assets, and current townhome development projects.
Patrick Grimes
Former engineer turned alternative investing educator; discusses lessons from the subprime crash, non-correlated recession-resilient plays (private credit, small-balance commercial, healthcare/legal funding), and building a diversified, AI-insulated portfolio.
Dallon Schultz
Capital-raising expert and community builder; highlights trust-building via live property tours, assisted living cash-flow potential ($20–40K/month per home), business acquisitions amid the “silver tsunami,” and leveraging AI tools for scalable content and outreach.
From seller-financed structures and HUD loans to debt funds, data-center equipment, assisted living, and AI-powered education systems, this session delivers actionable ideas for raising capital, protecting downside, and finding opportunity in distress. Perfect for both active operators and passive investors seeking creative paths to mailbox money in uncertain times.
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Full Transcript:
Bronson Hill: Welcome, welcome. We should have a few people coming in here now. Welcome to the event tonight. This is Creative Real Estate Financing. We’re going to get into it here and talk about what’s happening right now in the market. I’m going to adjust my camera here.
Why don’t we get the chat working here? As we get people dropping in here, we’re going to have more that will join us. You should be able to chat with everyone, so just go ahead and drop in the chat where you’re coming in from.
We’ve got a handful of people in here now, so welcome, welcome. It just helps us to make sure that the chat is working. So go ahead and make sure that chat box is working.
If you can just plead out, awesome. We’ve got Ron from Gilbert, awesome, Wilson, welcome, from Nigeria, love it, okay, great. Building material, welcome.
Long way, that’s awesome, I love it. Miami, Florida, welcome, that’s great, great to be here, awesome. Thanks for being here, guys.
Black Diamond, Washington, love it, love it, love it. Awesome, we’re going to keep that chat going. This is going to be an awesome interactive time.
We’re going to have a chance to ask questions, typically how we do this. We do this every month, and we just get such great feedback. We’ve been doing it now for about four years, and we talk about what’s happening in the market.
This is Creative Financing Strategies for Real Estate. We’re also going to talk about what it looks like as an investor. What are the best opportunities out there?
What are the ways, if you’re someone who raises capital, what are some things that you’re looking forward to? Why don’t you put in the chat, as you’re getting in here, just drop in there what you’re hoping to experience, what you’re hoping we’ll talk about here, and we’ll make sure to include some of that in our conversation today. Please do drop in the chat who you’re here to see and what you hope we chat about.
I’m going to welcome our panelists up here in just a minute. If we have not met, my name is Bronson Hill, I’m the CEO of Bronson Equity. We’ve got about $250 million in multifamily and other real estate assets.
We’re also doing other assets such as businesses and oil and gas, debt funds, different types of VC stuff as well. So let’s go ahead and just drop in the chat what you’re hoping to see in here today, and we’re going to jump in. Let me introduce our panelists.
We will pull them up, so let’s go ahead and welcome our panelists up here. I’m going to move you to the webinar, so just hit that box that says, yes, and it should drop you in here. And then I will give you a quick introduction.
So, all right, so we’ve got, first of all, we’ve got Cody Davis, who is the youngest guy who owns hundreds of units and super excited that he’s here today. He is the head of doing Cody Things, which is this company, and they’re doing a lot of projects with owner financing as well as development now. Tell us about kind of what he’s working on.
Welcome, Cody.
Cody Davis: Thank you.
Bronson Hill: Awesome. We’ve got my good friend Patrick Grimes is here. We’ve got a few bald guys here, so we had to have the young guy who’s got hair and remember what it’s like when we had hair before we lit our hair in fire.
So, anyway, Patrick, welcome. Good to see you, brother. I know you’re traveling right now, but you are doing a lot of different things in real estate, outside of real estate.
We’re going to talk about what you’re working on, some of the different alternative opportunities that you see today, things around financing, some of the stuff that we’ve seen, even some deals we’ve worked on together, which would be great, so excited to have you here, Patrick.
Patrick Grimes: Looking forward to it.
Bronson Hill: Awesome. Sounds great. Your sound is, phone quality is good there, too.
Dallon, welcome, brother. My other bald brother from another mother with the best mustache. It’s like a brand now, right?
You’re like the Raleigh fingers of capital raising. So, good to have you. You have the company Capitalist Pro.
You’re a capital raiser yourself. You have a capital raising community, and you help the software that helps people to raise more capital. And a lot of you talk about that as well.
Welcome today.
Dallon Schultz: Awesome. Thanks for having me, Bronson.
Bronson Hill: Awesome, guys. Well, really good to have you, and here’s people just saying, excited to be here, excited to learn. So, we’re going to take some questions.
You can feel free to drop your questions in there. I’ve got a whole list of questions in front of me. So, we’ll go ahead and drop these in here.
And again, our plan really is not to have a specific agenda. We want to make this just like as if we’re sitting around the dinner table having conversation. And it’s you at home, you’re just there, you’re joining us.
Whether you’re watching live, you’re watching on a replay. So, if you do have a question, feel free to drop it in there. We will have a specific time designated for questions after a while.
We will send out this replay to you automatically. So, we always get that question, is this going to be recorded? It’s like, yes, it will be recorded.
We’ll probably get three more questions by the end. It’s going to be recorded, but yes, it will be recorded. So, let’s talk a little bit about, before we get into kind of creative financing as a whole, let’s talk about what we talked about before we started.
We’re talking about what’s happening right now in real estate. What are we seeing in the real estate market? Let’s start with Cody on this one.
Then we’re going to kind of go around, because they know things, real estate is a very dynamic market, and some things have changed. There’s been some pretty significant changes in the last few years with rates rising and other things. But Cody, what are you seeing?
What are you working on? Why don’t you just talk about some of the changes you’ve seen in the last couple of years here in real estate?
Cody Davis: Yeah, I’m seeing a lot of liquidity issues to start. So, as an example, even just this morning, I got a text from one of my note holders, and they offered me a, it was about a 20% discount on the note if I paid them off sooner. And that’s on a two-year note.
It was longer than that, but we have two years left. And they said, hey, look, it’s $400,000. You owe me, if you pay me $325, I’ll let you out of the note.
And I’ve seen that in multiple situations. That was just the most recent. Some of my investor buddies who are not partners with their friends, there’s a lot of their tech buddies are losing their jobs right now, and they own real estate that they bought that they probably shouldn’t have.
A lot of people are in that boat. And so lack of liquidity, just stemming from lack of cash flows, killing a lot of people. And that one person who’s asking for the early payoff, he’s really heavy into hotels.
So he owns a ton of hotels. He’s just getting cashflow crunched right now. And so I think people are just under-capitalized, which is a bummer, but it’s the place we’re in.
Bronson Hill: Yeah, it kind of shows there’s some pain in the market. And I think, you know, we see an interest raise. We’re seeing just a crunch all over.
And it’s interesting. I’ve seen that as well in different people I’ve communicated with. Patrick, what are you seeing?
What are some things that you’ve noticed in the last couple of years? What are you keeping an eye on, especially this event for real estate?
Patrick Grimes: Well, if we’re talking about financing and real estate, it’s been kind of brutal out there. It started out a couple of years back, 2021, with bridge debt going to the mat on rates. And so, you know, debt was so cheap.
And bridge debt being hard money loans. Those are the short-term loans, but bridge would be what we call it in commercial. So there was just, there literally was a four times increase in the amount of bridge debts.
Bridge debt from 2021 to 2024. So a huge amount of short-term debt was issued because it just got to be so cheap. Unfortunately, that short-term debt relies on a stable market with low interest rates to refi.
And it relies on you creating value to raise the, to raise the property up to be able to actually pull some of that value out. Unfortunately, the rates went up and now we’re seeing commercial real estates still around 78%. I mean, up from three to four in 2021.
So that puts us in a spot where there’s 1.2 trillion. Was it MSCI real estate? 1.2 trillion in commercial real estate debt maturing in 2026 with 30% of it in negative equity. So that’s what happened when interest rates caught rise. Short-term bridge loans hit a record high. They expire while valuations decrease.
It’s a tough time.
Bronson Hill: Yeah, and that’s an issue for your investor, right? We’ve had this, we’ve seen this in our own investments in our company where you put 20% down and your property value literally goes down by 30 plus percent, your negative equity. You’ve got to figure out if you’re gonna raise more capital, what you’re gonna do, especially if you have shorter-term debt.
So obviously a lot of challenges. Dallon, I know you have, you work with a lot of different capital raisers. And so again, the question we’re really answering today is how do you find it?
How do you find something with no money down? And one way to do that is to raise capital. That’s one thing I realized is I didn’t have the money to buy a bunch of stuff, but I could raise money from other people.
So what are some things you’re seeing among the capital you’re raising, the capital you’re working with? What are some things you’ve kind of noticed in the market the last couple of years in addition to what’s been shared?
Dallon Schultz: Yeah, it’s a great question. And we are in a unique position because all of our users are capital raisers. And some of them are in real estate.
Some of them are in asset classes. And in addition to that, I’m invested passively in some deals as well. So there’s a couple of things when it comes to financing.
This is one we actually just went through on the LP side in the deal that we invested into with our fund. A lot of people have had to go through some of these capital calls this past year because a lot of these bridge loans and debts were coming due and valuations are down. And unfortunately, there’s some situations where people did the capital call as they were trying to figure out what the next move was and they were kicking the can down the road and then there was no clear direction.
But one of the groups that we’re partnered with when they said, hey, unfortunately, we have to do a capital call, there was intention behind it to refi into a HUD loan. And for those that aren’t familiar with HUD loans, these are probably one of the best loans you can ever put into place, especially on a large asset, but they can take a very, very long time. And there’s a lot of hoops and things you need to jump through to get that financing.
But the group that we partnered with, they had done this on a couple other deals within the last year. So they said, hey, here’s a clear direction, we can’t sell this deal, otherwise we’re gonna sell at a loss, we can’t finance into any other agency, but we are set up in a good position to get into a HUD loan. And so the capital call that was performed had a direct clear, had a direct path to go into it, into that financing.
So now we can hold this deal until we need to sell, right? Lower interest rates, fixed financing, it’s exactly where it needs to be. The deal itself is performing well.
I think a lot of the deals that struggled or have been struggling, it’s had to do with the financing and market rents and rates going down. So that was the main one on the LP side. And on the other side, being able to work with some of our users and see what they’re going through, it’s interesting cause we have people that have raised up to a hundred million dollars using our platform.
And they, even they are struggling to continue raising capital in this market. So it’s just a tough spot to be in. And I think to Cody’s point, what he said earlier, a lot of people are just, they’re just strapped.
And I think liquidity is extremely low. So it’s making it difficult for money to move. When money’s not moving, everybody feels it, right?
Bronson Hill: Yeah, we’ve raised over the years, over $50 million for different projects. And it just starts, somebody asked, how do you raise capital? It’s like, well, it kind of starts with one investor and it starts with just educating and getting people just talking about what you’re doing, you’re excited about.
Cody, you’ve had a different way you went about this. At 19 years old, your story is like one of the most inspiring stories I’ve ever heard when it comes to real estate. Like, can you tell people just a little bit of your story and how you have creatively financed, I mean, over a hundred units, basically with no, you started with basically almost no money down and you found a way to kind of make it work.
Can you just talk about kind of your overall approach, how you got started and how you see this works for people, not just that are 19 or 20, but you see 30s, 40s, 50s people are using this strategy.
Cody Davis: Yeah, sure. This blurry photo behind me, is the first building I ever bought. It’s 12 unit turned into a 13 unit later.
It was on the MLS and it had everything going for it, or going against it, I should say, because everybody had seen it, I’ve been on the market for over a year. But my very first deal, 12 units, going to the structure and then how I started to scale that. Seller finance, 90%.
This was when rates were in the threes for everybody else, threes and fours. Seller finance, 90% of the purchase at 6%. Still cash flowed.
And I borrowed the 10% down in second position at 12% interest. And so I’ve seen someone else in the office that had done that. They were a real estate agent.
They were selling deals to clients that didn’t have any money. And so they were figuring out how to structure it where these clients that didn’t have money could buy properties, zero money down. And so seller finance first, basically a hard money second.
That was at the real estate brokerage I was at. And they had a lot of research. Deals on Wheels by Lonnie Scruggs is a great book that I read.
That Carlton Sheets has a low, no money down. Little audio disc I put in my 91 Miata till it got stolen, the car, not the disc. And so I did a lot of research and I ended up buying this.
And about two years after I bought it, I reached out to the seller and the seller lent me the money to pay off the second and they lent it in second. So it’s a little over 100% seller financed on my purchase price. And I’ve since gotten the rent roll of like 60, 70% since I bought it.
But first deal, MLS, seller finance first, hard money second. That’s not how I scaled it. And that was just the first.
The future of that was reaching out to people who owned real estate. Cause now I was a person who owned real estate. People meet with you based on relatable points.
And so I was calling every owner I could find on Google maps, you know, you big roofs, find a bigger roof, it’s more likely to be an apartment building than a house. That was the philosophy. So I’d reach out to these people and try and meet up with them for coffee, learn how they did it.
And they taught me how they did it. They showed me, put me in their truck and drove me around and showed me this. How about this duplexes?
How about this rental house? Then I scaled up to a 12 unit, I bought this 10 unit and I got little bits and pieces of their story over the years and applied the good parts and omitted the bad parts cause everybody’s got bad parts to their story. So I tried to just learn from the ones that were really impactful for them.
And slowly but surely these people started offering deals to me, so they’re financed. So I did a 12 and then I bought another 12, bought a six and then scaled up to a 38 unit. And that 38 unit had been listed on the MLS for 13 years straight.
So I got listed when I was eight years old, bought it when I was 21, same list price. And that property…
Bronson Hill: Why had it been listed for 13 years? That doesn’t make a lot of sense. It’s just there and nobody wanted it?
Cody Davis: It was a negative cap rate. There’s some brokers online who say you can’t have a negative cap rate, it’s impossible. But I promise you if the operating expenses are higher than the rents, you can have a negative cap rate.
And I lived that, but that was my fourth deal and I bought it for 2 million. I just got a loan on it for $2.5 million. And I have no partners on that.
So not only did I pull out all the renovation money, the mortgage is less than half of the rental income and no partners on it. I’ve owned it for a little over four years. So it hasn’t always been beautiful and pretty, but I spent a lot of time and money and I just appraised for 3.9.
Bronson Hill: So what I love about your strategy and if people haven’t followed Cody, he’s got a YouTube channel, he’s done some other things. Now officially he doesn’t have an email list anymore because I talked about having an email list. But your method, what you shared with me and you just talked about it is you would get together with just find an owner, get on, find a Google Maps, go skip trace and find who they are, call them, hey, I want to hear about your experience. And these are people that are wildly successful, but a lot of people haven’t heard those stories and just sitting with them and saying, well, tell me how you did whatever.
Eventually these people end up selling you something. That’s kind of what would happen because they had more than enough money and they didn’t want to manage them because they’d sell their finance a lot of it. So it’s really valuable.
I want to come back to that more. I want to kind of work around the circle here a little bit. Patrick, I’d love for you to share, actually, if you’re comfortable, I’d love to share a little bit of your story.
I know you have some story of kind of the 1.0 and 2.0. And so if you could talk about 1.0 and kind of what you learned and then kind of how you’ve evolved. And when it comes to raising capital and just think a lot of people are really interested in like, hey, if I want to scale, how do I become Patrick Grimes besides shaving my head and becoming really good looking?
Patrick Grimes: Well, I had hair when I met you, Bronson, and now look at me. So, I mean, back in the day, when I was a machine design automation robotics engineer fresh out of college, and I got involved in real estate. I went head first in and I lost everything.
The subprime mortgage collapsed. So I learned about speculative, you know, pre-developments. Was fully recourse on a loan that went upside down and it was brutal.
I was no creative solution that I could work out, actually, at that time with the lender. And I wouldn’t take the property in lieu. I paid it onto it for about a year and a half before I just finally, actually, attorney said, just stop talking to him.
So I didn’t go bankrupt, but I did go through foreclosure at that time. And that was tough. So that was my kind of rude awakening to how challenging, you know, that markets can be and market cycles can be.
And so, you know, I was talking about creative financing, that 2.0 version of Patrick. It’s not just in real estate. It’s not just in stocks.
You know, I’m focused on, call it private credit strategies or financing strategies in real estate and debt and legal, right? And, you know, also in medical. So I’m looking for allocations into, you know, creative financing and various what we call non-correlated industries.
So I’ll lose it all again.
Bronson Hill: Well, yeah, and it’s amazing too. Like once you think you kind of know how it works, there’s people doing stuff totally different. And so you look at like a guy like Pace Morby who’s buying all these houses, like subject to, right?
Where there’s a risk to do that, but then he’s finding a way to deal with multifamily. Find a way to just have somebody’s note and take it over and find a way to like just make those payments. And there’s obviously a risk that the bank can foreclose, but, you know, people are finding a way to do creative things.
That’s the thing that like, one of the biggest things, if you are an investor or you’re an aspiring investor, people will say, oh, you can’t do that. But the question is, how can I do that? Like, how can I get this done?
And I know, Patrick, I know we’ve been in situations like, how can I get this thing done? And we just find a way. It’s like, oh, this personal lender, this will do it here.
Or we’ll find a way to, you know, this person invested 100K, but can we get them to 300K so that maybe we can just kind of get it across the finish line, which is valuable. Dallon, what else do you have to add as far as the creative financing, just, you know, capital raising, anything you’re seeing that people are doing that is creative? Actually, I’d love to hear from you on the creative methods you find people are using to help scale.
Dallon Schultz: Not so much on the creative financing side of things, maybe more so on different ways to set themselves apart in the world of raising capital. Like, that’s been kind of unique to see. One of our, somebody that I mentioned earlier, that’s in San Diego, investing in ADUs.
He buys a single family home, and then they’re adding two to four units in the back. So they’re taking a single family, transitioning it into a small multi-family. It’s a long flip, I would say.
So rather than flipping a home in three to six months, it’s taken them, you know, nine to 12 months, maybe a little bit longer, because of permits. But one of the things that they’re doing, and I see this being the go-to process or method for people to raise more capital, they’re doing live property tours at these deals that they currently have in construction. And so as they’re connecting with people and they’re doing their marketing and their outreach, they host a monthly live property tour, and they actually invite people to fly into San Diego.
And so it’s not just a deal webinar or a deal launch, which is like people were raising millions of dollars just from reading through the PowerPoint a few years ago. That’s not the case anymore. People need more trust, they need more exposure to who they are.
I think especially in this day and age where there’s a lot of AI and a lot of these pieces coming in, people are losing trust pretty quickly and they don’t know who to connect with. So with them pushing people to and encouraging, inviting them to a live property tour, not only can that person put boots on the ground and actually see what’s happening, but now they can connect with these operators in person. That’s what their efforts are going towards is getting people to that property tour, because they’re experiencing about a 50% conversion rate of people that actually show up to actually investing with them.
Again, I think creative financing, I know we often talk about like what Pace Morby does and what Cody does phenomenally well. And that’s actually how I got into my first four plugs with a seller carry back, 100% leveraged. So there’s a time and a place for that and it definitely works.
But I think in general, I like the topic here, just creative, like we’re in a tough market. So getting creative and how you’re building trust, how you’re connecting with people, how you’re getting to that next step in problem solving. I mean, that’s what’s gonna set these, the people that are gonna be successful in this market where we’re at are gonna be the ones that are creative.
Bronson Hill: Hands down. I think that’s true. And I love seeing what people are doing.
A lot of people that find something wide to be well, the success was like that. Like, oh, we’re doing property tours every month. Well, that’s like very few people do that, right?
But people are flying in, they’re making it a whole part of their business. And I think having those all turned into things, I just went to a property tour of a self storage deal we’re a part of in Houston a few months ago and it was great. We had a bus tour, did the whole thing, went to four or five different properties, it was great.
It was a great chance to kind of meet the team, see the assets. And we brought a couple of investors with us, which was great. And so, things like that that are a little different.
Patrick, do you have any additional stuff that you’re seeing that are creative as far as capital raising, that are like here’s some things we’re doing that are kind of different than everybody else that you’d like to share?
Patrick Grimes: Well, I think from our company’s perspective, I think people are, they’re kind of becoming a little bit disillusioned by real estate. The success that I’ve seen are people trying to find new real estate investors or trying to repackage real estate in a completely different light, right? Because there’s so much distress that people grew up with through the subprime mortgage collapse.
They either lived with their parents and they saw people lose a lot of house, they saw the market crashed, or they’re invested in commercial and they saw 20 or 30% swings down, which oftentimes results in significant losses or delays. So, in our specific case, we packaged in a way in which we’re trying to get the upside of the downturn. Like a lot of investors are feeling a lot of pain.
It happens to be that this is the time to pounce. You can win a lot by lending at high interest rates right now or buying at low prices. So, if you can take, muster up the courage to find those out there that are willing to go for the ride, you can see incredible investment opportunities.
And also, you gotta venture out because the reality is a lot of people got way over allocated into real estate. They got, and so popular, right? Because they get some guru or whatever it is and they got comfortable in it.
And that’s, when you get over allocated, that’s when you become victim to market volatility.
Dallon Schultz: They listen to three bald guys on a workshop, huh Patrick?
Patrick Grimes: And there’s really the two doling things. It’s kind of getting in the guru trap where it all becomes about this one small niche asset class and you get way over allocated into that or you get in the DIY trap and you do it yourself and you lose your life. And I’ve done both, right?
I’ve lost it all in downturns and I’ve tried to do it all myself and I’ve lost my time for my family, friends and hobbies and became a slave to my investments. So I think the reality is really to build security and in order to live out recession, broader market volatilities, you gotta learn how to not control it all. You gotta learn how to be passive.
You gotta learn how to allocate into various different investments and that are not driven by the same market fundamentals. And that’s where I feel like I have found a better spot. I found a place where I come to investors, not a one hit wonder, not a one widget solution, right?
Not everything’s a hammer. And you build a platform around introducing investors completely different kinds of ways to think about investments that’s been successful.
Bronson Hill: I love it. We’ll talk a little more to you about different assets that are out there. There’s some questions to come out of that as well, things outside of real estate.
We’ll talk about that here in a minute. Let’s talk about what’s happening now in real estate, what you’re doing. So Cody, I know you’ve shifted a little bit.
You’re doing some developments and everything. Can you talk a little bit about what you’re doing and also any opportunities that you’re seeing in real estate, outside of real estate? What are some things that you’re excited about?
Cody Davis: Yeah, I’m doing my 1031s right now. So I completed 1031 earlier this year. I’m doing another right now.
I’m selling out of my class C assets and positioning it into class B plus and A since it’s been built in the last five to 10 years. And that’s been my main focus. So right now I’m working on a $8.1 million project that’d be taken on. I’m excited to say it would be with no partners, 10% down seller finance. So it’s not quite zero down, but I’m selling one of my buildings to buy that. And I’m shifting.
Now that I got most of my partners bought out and I’m just playing with house money because I did furs on all my projects and bought them all out. Now I’m just shifting the old stuff to the new stuff. Whereas I might have a 39 unit where the average rent’s $900, but I can take that and go buy 35 units where the average rent’s $1,800.
And so I’m doing that actively right now just to get total freedom because the cashflow number is way more than I live on. It’s in excess of 5X. So what I might like cost to live.
But it always has the risk of something going majorly wrong, like a major capital expenditure because it’s old. And so like I have the freedom, but then I have a $15,000 hiccup and then I go a couple months and I’ll have like a $12,000 hiccup. And eventually, theoretically, I’ll be through all those.
But the easier way is to sell to someone who wants to do more value add, take the rents from 900 to 1100 and allow me to just go buy brand new properties. And so that is my shift in today’s environment.
Bronson Hill: Gotcha. I think that’s great. I love what you’re doing and how you just…
What are you developing? Were you building something right now?
Cody Davis: Yeah, so I’m building townhome sites. So I just bought some land and I’m gonna get a bank loan to build seven townhomes. And then I’m working on the adjacent two to build another 14.
So that’s 21 adjacent townhomes there. I’m doing that with one friend who’s a little younger than me, actually. He’s got his own e-com business.
And so we’re putting money into that. And we’re just 50-50 on it, building those up. I own some townhomes on the same street.
And I’m working on buying a 28-unit townhome site that’s adjacent to that that’s already built from someone that’s gonna be part of the seller finance. 1031, but that is the main focus. I’m building in one geographical location for the portfolio.
And that’s my main objective, get out of the old stuff.
Bronson Hill: That’s great, I love it. Well, I think it’s important to pay attention to what’s happening to the market. Obviously, as an investor, you can be a real estate investor, a multifamily investor, a developer.
You can do all different types of things. You can do things outside of real estate. And one thing that happened for me is this last January, we had fires here in the Los Angeles area about a mile from where I live.
My house was fine, thankfully, but a bunch of friends lost their homes in Altadita. And so I thought, what can I do to really help in that market? So I become licensed to the state of California as a manufacturer and modular home dealer.
And it’s just amazing these things. People think of like double-wides that look just like they’re in a trailer park, but they can do all kinds of creative, modern looking shapes and the build cost instead of $450 a square foot to 800 plus, it’s more like 350 a square foot or less. And so it’s way, way cheaper.
So there’s things that are out there that’s their creative strategy. And of course, I get a discount on everything. If we do it as an investment, I get these things typically for much cheaper than other people can.
So there’s kind of multiple things there that are interesting. Dallon, what else are you seeing? What else can you add to this that I guess opportunities that you’re seeing now, things you’re excited about, maybe things that you’re observing.
You said that you’ve seen some people that are doing multifamily, maybe having a little more trouble because some multifamily investors got challenged, but what are some assets that you’re seeing are going a little, I think, that you’re excited about.
Dallon Schultz: There’s really two areas that have really piqued my interest and one of them being assisted living facilities. And I understand that that’s real estate as well, but it’s more than that. Because when you buy people that are investing in the assisted living, they have the real estate home, but then there’s an operations component to it.
And the more we’ve been looking into it and just meeting people actually doing it, these people are cash flowing 20 to $40,000 a month on a single home. So they’re buying the residential home, maybe a million dollars or so. They put a good operations team in place and the cash flow is just absolutely insane.
So that piques my interest and we’re leaning more into the education side of that because of where we’re at and where baby boomers are at. There’s gonna be this demand. They refer to it often as a silver tsunami.
There’s just gonna be this demand for these baby boomers that may not be able to live independently anymore, but they don’t need full nursing care assistance. And so they put them in these assisted living homes that feels like a regular home. It’s not some massive facility to give them a good place to continue leaving getting the help they need.
So that’s one, the assisted living. And the other one, ironically, is right in line with that demographic and that’s business acquisitions. That’s something we’re very, very interested in and looking more into because there’s a lot of these baby boomers that have these mom and pop businesses and their kids don’t wanna take it over.
But they don’t have the tech. They don’t have the tools and the things to really make it efficient as it could be. I mean, a lot of these people are still tracking receipts in their folders and their filing cabinet and things like that.
So I think there’s gonna be a ton of opportunity in business acquisition and we even know people that are setting up private equity funds just for business acquisitions. So it’ll be interesting to see how that plays out more.
Bronson Hill: Yeah, that’s great. I’m gonna go to Patrick in a minute. We’re getting some questions on development, on assisted living, on different assets.
We’re gonna get to some of that. Obviously, we’ll get to everything here. I encourage you to go to the internet, go to YouTube, just start asking questions and even chat GPT.
It’s just that we’re gonna learn more about assisted living and not doing it and everything. Amazing what you can learn these days. Patrick, talk to us.
I know you’re doing quite a bit outside of real estate. You’re doing quite a bit that’s different with what you’ve done before. So talk about the opportunities you’re seeing today.
Patrick Grimes: Well, I mean, right now, I see a little bit of precarious indicators in the economy. If you back out AI infrastructure investing alone, just that one thing alone, you’re down to 1% GDP. If you take out government spending, you’re gonna shrink it back down by 20, 30%.
So you’re at like 70 basis points of GDP growth here in the United States. We are already showing major fundamentals around recessions. And I’m not a doomsday guy, but I do like to kind of go into investments with my eyes wide open.
I like to invest, not necessarily, which I’ve learned in the past for speculation and for our hope of a bright future. But more at this time, when here we go, we got inflation, we’ve got interest rates, we’ve got multiple wars going on. We’ve got debt spiraling out of control and we’ve got the world’s biggest economies betting against the dollar.
So it’s gonna be interesting to see how all that with AI disruption plays out. So our Venn diagram, being the engineer, we really have three circles. One is, as I was just mentioning, what is insulated from AI disruption, right?
And so we’re looking at that. But really, if there’s some instability in the economy, I’d like to be recession resilient. And I’d like to take AI disruption over top, but then I also wanna look relative to the rest of my portfolio and figure out what’s non-correlated to it.
So what’s the rest of, it’s non-correlated, means it doesn’t rely on the same market fundamentals as the rest of my portfolio. What’s recession resilient over long haul and what’s insulated from AI domination, right? Because there’s potentially, I mean, you hear stories about AI extinction events for different entire industries, right?
So I have a lot of that may have some trouble, but some of them may do really well. And so that’s why you find me and there’s really two real estate asset classes which are a little underserved and that’s commercial real estate, small balance, 600,000 to 6 million. Those, that is underserved right now.
And we’re seeing not multi-family or office, right? We’re not doing any office. We may use a multi-family still not quite penciling for us, but industrial, retail, warehouse, manufacturing.
We’re seeing, in fact, industrial has the lowest occupancy of any commercial real estate asset class right now in the United States. And pre-COVID, during COVID you saw reshoring and post-COVID, especially with tariffs, you see a lot of reshoring. So right now you see a tremendous growth in that small balance commercial real estate where a lot of the institutions aren’t paying attention with banks from the sidelines and you can lend high rates and buy at low prices.
But then if you’re looking for long-term resilience, I tend to lean towards those ones that are just up and to the right. Healthcare, legal, those are my two favorites. Also education, HVAC, CPA, plumbers, those are all ones if you’re buying businesses that tend to be needed in good times and bad times.
You know, attorneys are helping companies when they’re doing really well and things go south and things are going really well for attorneys. When you’re a doctor, people get sick in good times and bad times. So if you’re able to solve needs in those industries, funding doctors, funding attorneys, help them provide care, help them provide access to justice or funding real estate operators, provide some house tenants.
But find yourself in a position where you can kind of accomplish those three things. You know, AI disruption, installation resilience and non-correlation and get great returns along the way.
Bronson Hill: Hello, we’re gonna start taking some questions here in a minute, appreciate it, Patrick. And you brought up something that I’ve been following a lot and hopefully you have as well, audience as well as panelists, just the idea of what AI and LLMs are doing to just work the whole industries. I was at Tony Robbins a few weeks ago in Southern California and he made this statement.
He said, I believe that in the next five years we’re gonna have more change to the way humans live because of AI and robotics than we’ve had for the entire history thousands of years up until now. And it can be completely disrupted. All of a sudden it’s like, we just don’t need accountants anymore.
Everything’s been automated or we don’t need this certain thing. And it’s very hard to AI away a plumber, right? Is at this point maybe in 30 years, but like that’s hard to do.
It’s hard to AI away real estate. There’s no technology in place that people will not need a roof over their head and a bed to sleep in. So there’s things that obviously we’re all involved with, but maybe I just wanna add anything about AI that you’re seeing or any trends that you’re noticing and how that affects investing.
Cody, anything on that level that you’ve seen or noticed?
Cody Davis: Other than I use it every day, not a whole lot. I mean, my business is much more simplistic than I feel like everyone else is here. It’s smaller scale and raising.
I’ve raised tens of millions of dollars, but not close to a hundred like a lot of you guys. So it’s just different, but I use it to skim through, purchase the sale agreements. I use it to at least, it’s not relying on a hundred percent, but to give me pointers on contracts.
You gotta read every word anyway, but it’s nice to be able to get a summary from a different perspective and vocals and things. Other than using it every day, I don’t have a whole lot of information that’s gonna benefit everybody.
Bronson Hill: Okay, got it. Dallon, any thoughts? I know you guys have scaled up a lot of your content production.
We’d love to hear AI or you roll in that LLMs or anything else you’re using that are things that you’re seeing on the horizon.
Dallon Schultz: I’m 34 years old. I know I might look a little bit older because of the bald head and the mustache, but I like to consider myself an old soul and I put off having a presence online for way too long. And part of it was just because I was overwhelmed with trying to come up with the content.
I see these people posting all the time and I’m like, well, I mean, I might feel inspired to write a post one morning if I’m on a hike or a walk, but it takes me 45 minutes to an hour to really get my thoughts out into that message. Then I’m like, this isn’t scalable. So I put it off for way too long and it got to a point where we just, we knew we wanna be able to scale and get to where we want it to be unless we had more of a presence online.
And we knew if we didn’t get started now, it would be even harder to get started later on because of AI and because of all these tools that make it much, much easier. So we went from posting about seven times a week. This was back in May when I was like, hey, we’re gonna get into social media and we’re doing like seven posts a week.
Now we’re doing 150 posts a week and my business partner and I, we spend maybe an hour and a half a week actually shooting content. And then because of the system we put in place, because of some of these AI tools, we were able to literally offload everything else to our team. So that in itself is an entire machine and a system.
AI is a piece of it. It’s a component, but that framework, that strategy, that machine that we created came from me and my business partner. So I think that’s an important thing to acknowledge about AI as well, is it’s a tool and it is replacing some jobs in some situations, but the ones that are really gonna excel with it are the ones that understand that it’s a tool and find ways to incorporate it, not completely replace or remove them out of the business because you still have to tell it and instruct it what to do.
Now, a big piece of that with the content, those captions, I was telling you, it’d take me 45 minutes to 60 minutes. My business partner, he found somebody that was like, hey, we’ll program a GBT copywriter to write in your voice. It’s 2,500 bucks.
We’re like, hey, totally worth it. So he paid for it. And then they sent us all these questionnaires, all these documents, everything that we had to fill out.
And then they just plugged it into GBT and we’re like, what the hell did we just pay for? We did all the work anyways. So we literally just like reverse, now I wouldn’t even say reverse engineered it.
We took what was given to us and we then created our own flow. Then I created a GBT copywriter for me that writes in my voice. Now our team is able to write that content.
And I mean, it brings up, I broke both elbows, mountain biking. I broke my leg playing soccer. That’s what got me into real estate a few years ago.
And it will bring pieces of that up into my content, but I’m not the one writing it. So it has a role. We definitely leverage it in that sense.
And by the way, Bronson, I can get this to you after this so we can get it to the people that registered. We have that GBT copywriter, put it in it.
We’ve put together a step-by-step guide so people can literally just program it themselves. So, and I’m willing to like, it’s you guys. So you can have it.
I’m not gonna charge you 2,500 bucks for it because I thought that was insane, but that’s something that we’re willing to offer.
Bronson Hill: Sounds like a good business, right? Charge 2,500 bucks for what Chad GBT will do for anyway. We use it all the time.
One creative, so we’re talking about creative financing. And like I mentioned, I’m getting into a manufacturer modular prefabricated homes. I was at an event, a builders event in Cleveland.
And this lady said, I live in Detroit and we used to like have to go and try to find grants and pay a grant writer and maybe we get it, maybe we don’t. Well, now I use Chad GBT to help me find grants. She’s like, I literally use Chad GBT to help me find a grant where I wanted to build for this certain cause.
I had to do, you know, 10% of it’s gotta be low income or whatever. And then I had Chad GBT like take the questions and actually fill out the answers to the questions. She’s like, I got a million dollars for this specific deal.
And it basically was, I think it was all or most of her equity for the deal. So again, like when you get a grant, it like goes in as equity. And so that way she just had to have a loan, like a traditional loan on top of it.
And it was pretty magical. So it was pretty cool experience. I mean, we’re starting to take some questions here and I wanted to start with this one and then you go ahead and put it in the chat.
We’ll have time for a few questions here. But let’s, this one’s about education. So this is basically asking the question, like somebody saying, I’m new to this, what would you recommend as a new passive investor, any educational resources?
I went thinking of books, courses, conferences, anything I am with stocks, but what should I do when I’m looking at alternative assets? Let’s start with that Cody.
Cody Davis: Yeah, if you wanna be a passive investor, I’d suggest you start being a little bit active prior. I mean, there’s gonna be a lot of people that you can invest with, but deals on wheels by long scrugs can set you up to be a pretty solid passive investor. The premise of the book is, these are numbers from before I was born.
So stick with me, but you’d buy a mobile home for five grand, you’d sell it on a contract to someone for 20,000 and you can buy it, you could still find them for five grand a day. So you sell it on a contract to someone for 20,000, they put 20% down, so you get 80% of your money back. You invest a five, you get four back and then you charge 12% cause it’s a small loan and they make monthly payments amortized and you have a passive income, basically off of $1,000 of capital that’s in that deal, then you’re gonna get 12% on the 16,000 plus the amortization over five years, 10 years, whatever you decide to amortize it over.
So that would be a great way to set yourself up and you can really scale on the note side of things by doing that with cheaper properties. I’ve had the opportunity to do that on like a six collects, for example, here in Washington state, I have achieved, I sell it for a premium, get a hefty down payment and then you’re out and you’re just getting no payments, but that’s how I would best recommend setting yourself up as a passive investor is checking out that book.
Bronson Hill: Love it, awesome. How about you Patrick? Any resources you recommend, anything that you helped you kind of early on?
Patrick Grimes: Well, so when I was an engineer, like in medical, like I was in the same industries, mostly some high tech stuff and I knew about the 50 stocks people and startups. I everybody was like, hey, put your money here. But nobody ever told me about the uncorrelated alternatives.
What are the 50 ways you can invest outside of real estate, outside of the stock market? And there was just nowhere to access it. So that’s why we put together passive investing mastery where we educate every week or two weeks on completely different asset classes.
I mean, bourbon, barrel cast, timberland, we’ve got how to invest in gold mining, how to invest in Forex, right? All the different kinds of real estate of the rainbow, but a lot of over 50 different alts in there. And so I recommend people find resources like ours.
Get in there, learn about it because the hedge funds, the institutions, the private equity firms, the sovereign funds, these sophisticated investors, family offices, they’ve been using and investing into all of these creative alternatives, right? For generations and preserving wealth. So why not us too?
And I think I encourage everybody to get out there, stretch your investing muscles a little bit, do some pushups and start learning over time how to access these investments and learn them.
Bronson Hill: Love it, love it. Yeah, and I love Warren Buffett saying of unless you learn how to make money while you sleep, you’ll work until you die. So that’s what we love passive investing because you actually can fire yourself.
There’s one question here around, well, we’ll come by that in one second. Dolan, what about you? What other educational things have been helpful for you?
Dallon Schultz: One of my all-time favorite books is Cashflow Quadrant by Robert Kiyosaki. So I loved Rich Dad, Poor Dad, like that. I read Rich Dad, Poor Dad, something in my mind clicked and two weeks later we bought our first fourplex without any of our own money.
So like that got me into the mindset of just taking action and starting a business but his Cashflow Quadrant book, I’d say is probably my favorite book that Kiyosaki has written because it really helps you understand how different people make their money and really what part of that quadrant you really wanna be in. And for those that aren’t familiar with that book, he breaks it down into four ways to make money. You have the employee, which is the worst way to generate wealth.
Then you have the self-employed, which is what most small business owners are. Then you cross over to the right side of this quadrant where you have big businesses. So this is where you have people running the businesses for you.
And then the quadrant that ideally you wanna get into is the investor. And that’s where the money is just that like passive income. So I love that book, Cashflow Quadrant.
It just helped me understand why certain people are as successful as they are. Now in regards to other types of investments and getting started with passive investing, if you like real estate, I know we talk a lot about that. And I think it’s because a lot of us can picture it.
We feel it, we know people doing it. I think no investing and then getting into a debt fund that gets into first position that’s lending on these deals is definitely a good place to get started. A lot of people that have gotten burned with real estate these past couple of years were in an equity fund, an equity position, meaning they experience in the profit and the loss.
And unfortunately there’s been a lot of loss these past couple of years. And so they didn’t see any upside. With the right structured debt fund, that investment is secured by the property itself.
So you don’t see that in equity. And then another one that I see a lot of people getting into, and this is one that I’ve been leaning into learning a little bit more about is data centers, but not the real estate, not the building. It’s the actual storage that’s going into these data centers.
And there’s a guy I know right now that’s raising capital for that. And it’s insane the types of returns they’re generating from that. But you consider how quick AI has been growing just in the last year and just the amount of tech and information and like data centers aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.
So they actually invest in the equipment that goes inside the real estate. So I thought that was pretty fascinating. And you still get tax benefits because you can depreciate it like real estate because it’s equipment.
So pretty interesting.
Bronson Hill: That’s huge. Yeah, there’s all kinds of great alternative assets. We can talk about that a little bit and things that are out there.
Patrick and I are involved in a debt fund that’s really exciting first position stuff. And then you were talking about the educational side and cashflow quadrant is really incredible. It’s a great book.
It really does get into, some people are paying literally 65% in taxes because of self-employment tax and state tax and federal tax. And you’re just gonna get destroyed if you don’t really understand how that works. So it’s really huge.
Yeah, so I’ll just kind of repeat some of the things that were shared. And then I wanted to talk a little bit more about alternatives. You kind of brought it up as well.
We’re involved in some oil and gas because we like the cashflow and the tax benefits. We also, like I mentioned, the debt fund. We’re also doing some other development.
We have the development project we’re doing locally here. And then we just keep an eye. We actually have a data, an AI kind of data collection company.
So it’s not data centers. It’s more where basically it’s called pattern of life. So we collect data in real world, real life stuff with license plates and other sorts of just information pings on different things that keeps people’s privacy.
And it’s just, we can sell that data because AI just needs data for everything. And it can solve diseases. It can solve all kinds of things.
That’s something we’re excited about. Is there anything else, Cody, Patrick, you guys are excited about that we did not mention or anything else you want to mention before we just kind of go into how people can get in touch. We’d love to give you guys a couple more minutes if you want to just talk about anything else you’re working on, excited about or your journeys.
Cody Davis: On the AI front, I didn’t think about something. So I plugged in every deal that I ever did into chat GPT, how I structured it. I asked it for recommendations of different ways that I could have bought some of these deals.
And it actually shared some structures that I hadn’t heard of. And I guess they’re pretty commonplace, but it’s a good place to do your research. I learned about asset participation agreements, which is something that I am venturing into on a development deal.
And I ran that by one of my mentors and that’s how a lot of the medical districts you got built out way back when is you have someone on the land, they want to fix price. You had an investor who had a vision and the investor would get to participate in any of the upside above the strike price. And there was an agreement to outline all that.
I asked chat GPT for an example. And it gave me an example, showed me how the document looked. It was a very interesting way to structure a deal as if the investor wanted to get into something that they couldn’t afford to take on debt to get into.
They couldn’t afford to raise equity for the opportunity. It would utilize the existing equity structure of the deal, but it would give them complete control of the future of the project as long as you hit your base metric for the seller. So utilizing that and plugging in the deals you’ve done and then asking it for another way to do it.
It’s a pretty cool method for figuring out some creative financing techniques.
Bronson Hill: I love it, I love it. Patrick, what about you? Anything else you want to add there?
Patrick Grimes: Yeah, I just think that you kind of go back and create your pie chart. Because I have, I mean, as probably you all have as well, I’ve talked to over thousands of investors at this point. And they’ve, not very many of them have actually said, hey, look, let’s put how much I have in this, and this, and that, and this, and let’s actually put together the allocations and then start to think about, okay, how do I feel about how they’re performing?
How do I feel about the outlook? Do I feel like a large portion of it is gonna rise and fall together? And what if it falls at a year when I don’t want it?
And start to think about like, hey, you know what? Does it make sense to stretch my out a little bit to do some investing pushups and start to learn about? And I tell everybody, it doesn’t take much.
10, 15, 20 minutes a day, I run every morning. I listen to podcasts, webinars, audio books every morning. Doesn’t take much to do one passive step a day to start stretching out those alternative investing muscles.
Listen to how you’re driving, watching the car, whatever it is, and then I say, once a week, doing a, that’s how I met Bronson. Actually, Bronson was running a meetup, and so like, here we are, many years later, he’s still bugging me, and I’m bugging him all the time.
Bronson Hill: So, I mean- Patrick, as far as you’re past me now, where I say that, we’re definitely doing big things both of us, so.
Patrick Grimes: But the deal is like the people that I met early, the people who I got uncomfortable, right? The people that were just dismissive like Bronson was to me. No, I’m kidding.
So, the people that I met early, and I physically got uncomfortable. I got in front of and I was vulnerable. I said, this is where I’m at.
Here’s where I wanna get. Those are the people that have built the strongest bonds and that we’ve carried long-term relationships and grown to each other. And I just get out there, just like you do with your social friends.
Take time, you spend so much of your time making friends socially and making money. Spend some time making some investment buddies and physically get in front of those people because they’ll carry 40 good times back. And so, one passive step a day, at least one active step a week.
If it’s not a Zoom like this, where you get to talk to somebody, actually talk to somebody, get physically in front of people and then set a goal. 120 days, 90 days to take some action and do an investment. That may be scary, but that’s good, right?
Because then you’re growing, you’re stretching. That’s what I think people should at least try and make something happen this year, in the new year.
Bronson Hill: I love it, I love it. That’s great. Well, I appreciate that, Patrick.
Thanks so much guys. We’re gonna do a quick pause here for a second and then we’re just gonna go around and help see how people can get in touch with you. We are doing an event, we love doing events like this. Love being in the room. And we have this event coming up.
I think Patrick may be there and it’s gonna be in Pasadena. So, this is at the luxury hotel called the Langham Hotel in Pasadena on December 12th. We have 30 people, including Mikey Taylor, who’s a former professional skateboarder, turned real estate investor, Brian Burke, who wrote a book on multifamily investing.
And basically these are our speakers right here, but it’s just amazing. You wanna be in the room, you wanna really be around a handful of people, 30 people, and just gonna have a phenomenal time. So, I’ll put the link in there in the chat.
You can check it out. We only have a few spots left. If you’re interested in joining, it’s really if you wanna invest in yourself, this is a way to get around people that are also high net worth and really looking at how we can help each other to grow.
So, please do check that out. I wanna say thank you to our panelists. Why don’t you guys just give a quick 30 seconds?
How can people get in touch? Any gifts you have, anything you wanna share that would be helpful? We’ll start with Cody and maybe just how people can reach out if they wanna reach out or if that’s something that you’re like, I’m not doing that anymore, like let me know.
Cody Davis: Well, no, that’s good. I have a little YouTube page. That’s all I’ve got going on as far as business goes.
It’s Cody Davis Business Adventures. It outlines my business adventures, pretty simple. Never been super creative with the name, just the debt structure.
But you can check it out there, reach out if you want to and I’m happy to look over people’s projects.
Bronson Hill: Yeah, and doing Cody things, that’s a creative name. So doing quick Cody things, that’s your Instagram handle, right? So that’s really awesome.
Awesome, cool. And then, Dallon, how can people get in touch with you?
Dallon Schultz: Yeah, I think LinkedIn is where we’re the most active right now and so happy to connect with people there. And so I spilled the beans, I shared with you that a lot of the content, I myself am not writing, my team is with our GBT copywriter. However, all the comments and messages on LinkedIn are 100% me because we found that content, we can automate, we can delegate but when I’m actually connecting, that is me.
So if you want to connect on LinkedIn and we start having messages or you see comments coming from me, I want you to know that that’s 100% me. I know people are offloading that to VAs and other people and it’s absolutely destroying trust. And we’ve all probably seen some of those comments on our posts and we’re like, that doesn’t really make sense.
Or like, you could just tell it’s not that person and the whole point of having a channel like LinkedIn is to help build connections and build trust. So automate the things that you, and delegate the things that are effective but when it comes to actually connecting with people, take 30 minutes out of your day and actually be the one responding. I share that with you because I want you to know that if you do choose to connect on LinkedIn and we engage in any comments or messaging, it is me.
So I’ll throw my link here in the chat. And then that copywriter, I was telling you guys about, I want you guys to have that as well. So I’ll throw that in here.
If you guys just text chat to 623-624-1190, then you’ll be able to get access to that and we won’t charge you 2,500 bucks for it, so.
Bronson Hill: Yeah, awesome brother, appreciate it. Thanks so much, appreciate that, Dallon. Patrick, how do people get in touch with you?
Patrick Grimes: Yeah, so Passive Investing Mastery, all spelled out. Passive Investing Mastery, I should probably come up with a short link, .com. And we have our Alternative Investing Mastery Series where we educate Blue Ocean Approach, we’ve had Bronson on there, we’ve had hundreds of other people.
Every one to two weeks, we have a panel of three to four people talking about completely different non-correlated alternative ways to invest. Not just different asset classes, but also strategies, like how to do it tax efficiently and how to do it asset protected structures. So holistic approach to really trying to set you up and provide this information that took me decades and decades to find and learn.
We’re trying to just solve it, solve these solutions, put these out there for you in a digestible way. So passiveinvestingmastery.com. If you would like, we have our investments at the top, you can learn about our private credit and legal funds, debt funds, and it’s coming soon, medical, funding medical care receivables.
And also we have some equity stuff. We’re set up a meeting. I know everybody out there is kind of wondering what they should do next.
And one of the things I love since I left high tech and I’m full-time real estate investment is that I carve out time every week to be able to just talk one-on-one with investors, give back a little bit and get your point in the right direction. If we’re not the right stop for you, shoot, man. I’ve done a lot of different webinars on a lot of different assets.
I can get your point in the right direction. I’m pretty sure of it. So set up a call, love to meet you.
Bronson Hill: Awesome, thanks Patrick, Cody, Dallon, thanks everybody for joining us today. I put a thing in the chat, a little guide that we have as well, Inflation Guide, so you can check it out. This will come out as a replay.
Appreciate all of you. Look forward to seeing you next month. We’ve got a tax strategy event.
I believe the date is on the 16th of December. There’ll be some information coming about that. And just so grateful for each of you.
So thanks for being here, taking the time. You have been spending time with Patrick, Bronson, Cody, and Dallon, and you are better for it. So thank you everybody.
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