Can you do what you love and make money? Craig Siegel, a Wall Street veteran turned reinvention expert, says yes—and he’s living proof. Join host Bronson Hill on the Mailbox Money Show as Craig shares his journey from a 13-year Wall Street career to building a global personal development brand, the CLS Experience. As a Wall Street Journal and USA Today bestselling author of The Reinvention Formula, keynote speaker, TEDx veteran, and host of the CLS Experience podcast, Craig has been endorsed by luminaries like Jim Kwik and Ed Mylett. After hitting rock bottom during the pandemic, he pivoted to align his career with his purpose, speaking at the United Nations, coaching thousands, and running eight marathons.
In this episode, Craig reveals how to combine passion with profit, offering practical steps to discover your purpose, build an authentic personal brand, and overcome the ego to live a life of impact. Whether you’re stuck in a job, scaling a business, or seeking deeper meaning, Craig’s insights will inspire you to reinvent your life.
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Bronson Hill: What if you could do what you love and make money? A lot of times we think it’s either you make the money or you do what you love. But what if those things actually could be combined? Well, my friend today, Craig Siegel, he’s a Wall Street USA Today number one bestselling author of the re-invention formula. He’s a keynote speaker, he’s done a TEDx talk, host of the podcast called The CLS Experience. And he’s been endorsed by people like Jim Quick, Ed Millett, and he’s done eight marathons.
He’s just a very inspirational guy. I think what I really liked about this conversation is it really is getting down to the things that matter. Now, whether you are someone who wants to build a brand. And you want to be an influencer or make a difference in the world. Or you’re just somebody who wants to really lead your family well. You’re stuck in a job that’s like, hey, I really want to be doing something different. Or stuck in your business. This guy, he’s got something to share for you.
So I’m really excited for this interview.
Let’s jump in and let’s get started in the Mailbox Money Show.
Welcome to the Mailbox Money Show. I’m your host, Bronson Hill.
I’m really excited to be here with Craig. Craig, really good to have you here, brother, and excited to hear more of your story. You’re super inspirational.
You’re like a superhero, man. You’ve kind of done everything that you could possibly do. So why don’t you give people a little bit of your background. Wall Street, kind of some of the things you did and kind of what led you to be able to. Like you said, even before we started recording, create the life you wanted. Create where you can make more money than you thought was possible doing what you love.
Craig Siegel: Yeah, beautiful. First of all, thank you for having me. I’m super pumped to be here.
I think that there’s a big misconception that you can’t do what you love. And also make a ton of money. I would just share this with your audience. The riskiest thing that we can do is to play it safe. And to take back a little bit.
I was on Wall Street for 13 years. Having a ton of success, and I put that in quotations, because obviously as you evolve. Sort of your definition of success, at the time I was making a lot of money. I was doing well, top brokerage at my company, had the pretty girlfriend, all the things.
But ultimately, Wall Street stopped becoming as much fun as it once was. And so I pivoted from that, from basically being a stockbroker. And I started my own company where we were allocating working capital and loans in different businesses across the country.
Although very lucrative, wasn’t exactly why I’m here. And I started to feel a little bit burned out. Because even though I give everything, I got everything I do. I was waking up every day, and I just didn’t feel super connected to the mission. And I think a lot of people resonate with that, because even when we were doing the TED Talk. I was doing some homework.
And as it turns out, 80 percent of Americans don’t find purpose in the work that they. That’s a pretty good number, but I was one of them. So I started running a bunch of marathons. Because I was kind of looking just to get uncomfortable and expand myself.
And that was great. Fast forward to the pandemic. Just keep in mind, I kind of been in a little bit of a rock bottom place.
Personally, my best friend, my dad had just gotten diagnosed with cancer. I just got a toxic relationship. I was yearning for something else.
I just wasn’t able to put it together. But during the lockdown, when I shut down my office. What I thought would be two weeks is when I really got spiritual and really began to connect. And that’s when I started receiving those downloads.
I’ve been obsessed with personal development in 15 years. I utilize it to be successful in different arenas, like building relationships, your network, Wall Street, et cetera. I just didn’t realize that personal development was actually my gift, my calling.
And so I created my CLS brand, kind of figured out a 10-lane highway. To come into the world with each lane representing a different way to make an income. But also more importantly, make an impact.
Coaching, speaking, TED talk, deal flow, all the other things. Reverse-engineered it.
I leaned in. And for the first time in my life, I was in alignment. Over the last four and a half years, it really exploded.
Speaking online, we just spoke with the United Nations, our book, coaching, the podcast, all the things. Just got married in my favorite part. So the career reinvention, it was really just the whole consciousness.
And one of the things I’m excited to share with your audience today is you can absolutely find what you love, connect to that. Share it with the world and unapologetically make a lot of money doing so.
Bronson Hill: I love it. I love it. So you said something.
You said a lot of things in there that are really interesting to me. And, you know, let’s talk about it for a minute. 80 percent of people don’t like what they do for work or they’re not engaged.
They don’t feel like they come alive. And I think, I mean, that’s most people. That’s probably most of our listeners, a lot of people that are doing it.
So I always think it’s someone else. But a lot of times it’s what is the sign of somebody who’s really not engaged or is not really enjoying what they’re doing? It doesn’t align with their purpose.
And what is like, why do you think that is? Like, that’s like the vast majority of people. Like, why do you think that number is so high?
Craig Siegel: Phenomenal question. I think that like in my case, I didn’t grow up knowing exactly what I wanted to do. And so ultimately, I just got in different arenas.
I want to try some things. Wall Street hobby lasted longer than I expected to. And I wouldn’t change a thing.
I learned so much there, discipline, how to become a man, et cetera. But a lot of people don’t take the time to get clarity of what I actually want to do. I would say in 2025, we’re right now an entrepreneurship.
I think there’s never been a better time ever to really put yourself out there. To build a brand, to find what you love, to figure out different ways to make money. And because people don’t really take the time to articulate what it is that they love or good at or want to do. They end up doing something that they don’t necessarily feel super aligned with. And so at some point, they typically either get burned out or disengaged.
And what are the signs? And now maybe showing up late work, not super enthusiastic, not giving it your all. Maybe drinking a little bit more than you’d like to admit. Which is something I was doing at the end of my Wall Street career from being vulnerable. Whatever it is, you can tell when someone’s soul is lit up and when they have to manufacture excitement.
Big difference.
Bronson Hill: Yeah, it is. It is a big difference. I mean, it’s the idea of somebody who’s, like you said, lit on fire or somebody who’s just kind of there.
As soon as we have that and then we lose it over time, because we get into kind of like we’re settled in. And it’s just, I think it is so important. I think the older I get, I went through a divorce about eight years ago and started looking at what I was doing.
I was working in medical device sales, making good money, making 250K a year. But I was like, it wasn’t fulfilling. And I was working a lot.
I just I didn’t like what I was doing. And so I started kind of asking those questions. But I mean, what do you think, I guess for someone who’s discovering, because I think the first thing, before you look at brand and all these things to do, you got to figure out what are you here to do and what do you. What are you good at?
So what’s some of the, what are some of the steps that you take people through on the personal development to kind of figure out some of those things of like, what am I actually here to do? What makes me come alive?
Craig Siegel: One of the things I talk about in a book, the re-invention formula, which is very tangible. Which is good for everybody listening is if you’re really not sure. And let you see, you’re listening to this conversation, like, wow, I don’t really love what I do. I would love to find something that I felt really connected to. That I can make a lot of money doing it. I would start with two separate lists.
Just jot down to the five to 10 things that you absolutely love. I mean, no filter, it doesn’t matter what it is, give yourself permission to look silly, whatever the 10 things are, 10 different things that you love, separate list, 10 things that you’re good at, some skill sets, maybe some of your superpowers. At some point in the middle, there’s going to be some commonalities.
So for me, I could communicate effectively. That was one of my gifts and I was obsessed with personal development. So I kind of married the two and then naturally, all right, let’s help people that let’s speak with, let’s coach and let’s do a podcast, et cetera.
And so for me, that’s how I found it. For anyone listening, you must, not can, must take some time to create white space and really connecting, get those downloads. One of the mistakes I made, brother, was that working on washers, you can imagine it’s, you go in 500 miles an hour, right?
You stop, you get run over. So I never took the time to just reassess and connect the lockdown during the pandemic. For me, it was almost like a forest pivot, but boy, did I need it.
And so I would just share with anybody, don’t wait till a pandemic, God forbid, to take some time, take some time this week, whether that’s go for a walk or meditate, connect, whatever your thing is and just connect and find out what do you love? What are you good at? And let’s start getting some data.
Bronson Hill: Yeah, a hundred percent. No, I think it’s so good to take the time. I think a lot of times we’re head down in the business or in the job that we don’t we don’t take any time to reflect.
And I think that’s what I tell myself and others as well is like, you’re working hard, but don’t just work in the business work, like take a step back and like really figure out are there are you getting the results that you want to get? Because a lot of times you’re doing something and you’re moving forward, but it’s it may not even the direction you really want to go because success and what you were doing or what I was doing, it led to like more work and more burnout and more all this stuff. But when you actually take a step back and you’re like, huh, like, am I getting the results that I want to get?
And the answer is no, like, I’m more stressed out than I want to. I mean, I’m making money or maybe I’m not making money. And like what you’ve been just like looking at those things, I think it’s just incredibly valuable.
But what do you how can somebody who’s really busy and maybe they have kids at home or what are some ways you think is it just like I’m going to schedule a Friday afternoon just to go go to coffee and just kind of like journal about it or what are some ways people can explore kind of create that space? Is it a weekend getaway?
Craig Siegel: I think all the above, right? And just a question I would typically ask myself, which is beautiful based on what you just said, and I would encourage everybody to ask this, am I busy or am I productive? Because it’s just beautifully articulated.
It’s very easy to get caught in the weeds, especially of your own business, where you’re working so much in the business, not necessarily on it. And I was guilty of that for quite a long time. Even now, because of my personality, I feel like you’re kind of the same, like you’re a high achiever, you don’t want to get stuff done.
That’s not really where the game changing ideas come from. When you’re just grinding, they come from a step back when you can actually get those downloads. And so, look, for me, like right now, I have I work four days a week.
That’s something new that I spent in 2025. Just to be clear, I still work on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. But Monday through Thursday, when I have scheduled meetings, and then Friday is a lot of white space.
It’s impromptu meetings, events, speaking, whatever the case may be. And so I would encourage everybody in your calendar put some white space. So maybe that is going to the coffee shop.
Maybe it is going for a walk or whatever it is that you have to do to kind of step back from it and put yourself in that vibration of being able to connect and receive downloads. But if you don’t intentionally, proactively take the time, it will pass you by. So you must schedule time for this.
Bronson Hill: Yeah, absolutely. I’ve started doing this about once a quarter, I get away for two nights and just do some white boarding and put things up there of like, what are my goals? What are my values?
What am I am I getting what I want? I pray and it’s you mentioned kind of a spiritual journey as well. It’s like very spiritual items because a lot of times we’re so I think that the the product of a lot of our society and like Wall Street or corporate career or having a business is just like kind of can be soul sucking, right?
You just simply do it, put everything into it. But then you’re not actually taking the time to just actually live and realize like, well, is this really actually fulfilling my values, which I think is really valuable. I want to talk a little bit about personal development.
I want to get into brand here in a little bit. But I’ve noticed there’s a huge link between a breakthrough in my personal development. I have a hard conversation with someone.
I have, you know, a family member I need to resolve something with. I have something that I address some pain in my life when I was a kid, something happens. And then all of a sudden some big, big business breakthrough.
And I think there’s a real link between those two. Talk to me a little bit about why personal development really leads to business or success in life.
Craig Siegel: I love the question, but really what you’re telling right there is spirituality. And I didn’t know, you know, how deep you want to get on this show today, but I’ll just say spirituality is my favorite thing right now. And I specifically, I study the wisdom of Kabbalah.
I would just say this, not to scare anybody, let’s just keep it like service level for this. What does it even mean to be spiritual? That means that you believe that there’s something else going on here beyond our logic.
And if you can subscribe to that, then you’re available. And what you just said is absolutely beautiful. So basically, when you proactively do certain things for the right reasons, the right consciousness, you see an effect or results somewhere else, right?
So having a tough conversation, resolving something with your family member, being willing to get having patience in the discomfort typically leads to another blessing and miracle somewhere else because it’s all connected. So one of the main universal principles of Kabbalah is that there are no coincidences. Everything has a reason and a purpose, including you, including everybody listening.
So then how do we find our purpose? How can we know we’re on the path our soul is meant to take? How can we live a life full of purpose and meaning?
Can we all positively impact others and thereby the world? The answer is yes. And there are universal laws just like there is gravity.
Even if you’re a great person and you were to jump out this New York City window, you would go down. There are certain universal laws that we can tap into things like doing things without an agenda without needing recognition. Consciousness is really just the definition of who you are.
I know that word gets run around a lot. And who you are, you personally and also your listeners, is limitless. And I don’t mean the who that we’ve been told we are, that we think we are.
Who we actually are is limitless. And as we raise our consciousness and really begin to tap into that, we can connect to what we would call the light and much more blessings and miracles on an ongoing basis. But it starts with what you just said, being willing to get uncomfortable.
Bronson Hill: Yeah, I think it’s it’s amazing. Whatever faith someone is, I’m a Christian. And I just feel like, you know, in my life, I pray and I feel like I get answers to things.
I feel like God’s with me. And there’s a book out called The Alchemist. I don’t know if you read The Alchemist, but it’s the idea of this, like, follow the omens, right? That there will be signs in your life that will lead you to where you need to go.
And a lot of times we’ll kind of keep going against the same thing. And I have a relative who just worked really hard to go out for a certain goal. And it was like eight years.
And I was like, bro, like, maybe it’s time to move to something else. Like, it’s something people kind of fight against those things. But I think it’s so important to live your life.
It’s like, okay, what am I supposed to be doing? What’s my purpose? What’s the value?
Because you’re right, that is what spirituality is, right? It’s really connecting to something greater than I need more money, I need more stuff, I need more whatever that’s material, but spiritual as much. Well, what’s the purpose?
What’s the meaning? What’s the value behind it? Which I think is great, which really kind of leads me to brand.
So you talk a lot about personal brand, I’m going to talk because I think it connects to spirituality. A lot of people don’t see this connection. But when you’re consistent with who you are and you present who you are, your brand should be consistent with that, right?
And I think where people have the challenge is they’re disconnected, their brand is totally different from who they are. We look at people like Tiger Woods, where there was this brand of this clean cut guy, whatever, all of a sudden, he’s like this player guy with all these different ones. I’m not saying like everybody, people make mistakes and things like that.
But when there’s a disconnect between those two where the brand or the public persona of somebody is different than what their actual kind of who they are, that’s what’s challenging. So how does somebody stay consistent with building a brand? And some is where it can be challenging, because you know, not always what people present is actually what is really going on inside of them.
Craig Siegel: Couple words come to mind. Number one, this is your greatest superpower, authenticity, right? And it’s okay to be vulnerable.
And one of the things that you just mentioned, Tiger Woods, who is one of the goats on the course, absolutely. But you said there was a big disconnect there. It’s probably out of integrity, right?
And so everyone was super surprised because he was kind of living a double life, I guess you could say. And so that’s that kind of created a different perception of him. I would just say, look, you don’t have to share everything with everybody.
You’re not obligated, but the more vulnerable you’re willing to be, the more people connect with you. Right. So I would just say that clarity breeds conviction.
Conviction breeds momentum. And simplicity is mastery. If it’s confusing to explain, it’s confusing to experience.
So you want to be simple. You want to be straightforward and you want to be able to stand for something in regards to a personal brand. I mean, when you build your personal brand, you’re building an appreciating asset.
It opens doors to paid speaking courses, collaboration, sponsors, private deal flow. Your brand works while you sleep. That’s like the modern definition of passive income.
So I would just say to anybody, number one, authenticity and number two, being integrity. If you don’t want to share something, that’s okay. But be honest, be as as transparent and vulnerable as you’re willing to be.
And just make sure that you’re authentic because in a sea of people out there that are building a personal brand or influencers, it’s so easy to sniff out like who’s not really doing what they say they’re going to do or a lack of integrity. It’s just so obvious in my opinion. And so be in integrity and be authentic and you won’t be for everybody.
And that’s okay. The right people will filter towards you.
Bronson Hill: Yeah, no, it’s amazing. I think in our culture of Instagram Polish and all these things they’re out there is people just looking for somebody to be real and be like, Hey, I messed up or here’s what happened. Or, you know, in our world, it’s like, Hey, we did, we did a couple deals.
It didn’t go well, right? People that were willing to talk about it and say, Hey, we had some real struggles here or somebody who says, Hey, I have this thing in my personal life. And like you see, you don’t have to share it, but it does really connect you to people.
So let’s talk for a little about building brand. I think one of the things that I’ve learned is that, one of those valuable things that you especially if this is a lot. There’s a lot of passive investors on you, but most of the people that would like to leave a legacy and like to really impact the world is how you show up is your brand. If you show up to an event and you’re in the back and you’re dressed sloppily and you’re falling asleep and you don’t talk to anybody, like that says something like you’re saying something as you show up.
Your brand is how people know you. So what is it? I guess when, when it comes to brand, it comes to our reputation and how people know us and how we use that in our business or to make an impact.
Can you talk about how people, like what, how, what’s a good way to kind of formulate that and, and grow your brand?
Craig Siegel: Yeah, first of all, I think of the word aura is what you were just describing. Right. And so the advantage is really authenticity and people are starving for real.
The market is tired of gimmicks. They want your story, your energy, your truth, and energy is absolutely everything. Right.
And so like, look, when you enter a room, your energy will introduce you before you even speak. And so your energy, your aura, it’s more powerful honestly than an algorithm. And so the more that you put yourself out there, the more authentic that you are, your brand says something.
And for anyone listening right now that wants to build a personal brand or want to put themselves out there. And by the way, I think everybody at this age should be considering a personal brand. Even if you’re not like an entrepreneur, an influencer per se, I think anything you do now is like part of your brand, but that people check out your social media or your red.
I mean, if you’re applying for a job these days, they probably check out your social media as much as they do your resume. Yeah. Right.
The intentional is what I would say. And just like look, you don’t have to discover your brand identity. You decide your brand identity and then you live it and breathe it.
And that’s contagious.
Bronson Hill: Yeah. That’s really interesting. You said, you don’t discover it.
You decided my friend Hunter Thompson, if you know, Hunter Thompson, he’s more in the real estate space, but he, he has a group called Raise Masters. And so he, you know, he’s got maybe three or 400 people in his mastermind and doing raising capital for different things. And he had talked about it.
He was going to be like the news guy where he was going to like start to do, which is not wrong. He’s just going to start to basically provide things around news. And then he decided to go into capital raising, helping other capital raises, but he just kind of decided and it’s been wildly successful.
But I just remember he like, he said he was like, it was like a sliding door moment where he made this decision. How do you know when you’re going in the right direction or when it’s time to pivot when it comes to your brand? I mean, if you’re like, hey, this just seems like this is really working or you know what, this isn’t quite working.
I need to change. Is that something you revisit or you said you decide, but what if you feel like how do you make that strong conviction around what you decide?
Craig Siegel: One of the beautiful things about just having a human experience is you always have the opportunity to pivot and adjust if need be. Right. And so look, if you’re authentically, you don’t have to pivot that you are who you are.
In regards to doing different things, if certain things aren’t working, says it, why isn’t it working? Is there something I can approve? What are the basic spiritual concepts of Kabbalah is I am responsible.
So you always want to take responsibility for everything if you can. And then it’s like, all right, maybe this was working, but we want to evolve and regrow. Or maybe I really felt connected to this particular route a year ago, but now I feel more connected to this.
Give yourself permission, right? It’s fluid. Like you can do what you feel most connected to.
And I would just say, don’t ever think that you have to be stuck in a box or typecast is something else. You can do whatever it is. That’s one of the beautiful things about having your own brand.
Right. So even for me, like when I first started, I was kind of the mindset guy, then everyone wanted to ask me about building a personal brand, because we did that in what most people said they never seen anyone do faster. Then all of a sudden, I was the reinvention expert, because we wrote the Wall Street Journal best selling book, the reinvention formula.
Everyone’s like, how did you leave Wall Street start with nothing and do this. And now it’s a lot of spirituality. So I allow those to happen based upon what I feel most in integrity and what I feel most connected to.
And so there, look, Frank Grillo, Hollywood actor once said this on my podcast and always stuck with me. I think this is good for everything. There are no rules, right?
You can decide what you want to do when you want to do it. And ultimately, just be able to have intuition, be able to channel that and figure out what you feel most connected to and what you think will add the most value.
Bronson Hill: Yeah, yeah, I think a lot of people have, they struggle with, okay, I’ve been doing this job. I’ve been in this thing for a long time. And actually, it feels like a lot of risk to make a change, but a lot of times more of the risk is, like you said, to play smaller, to not try.
And that’s when I got approached 40 years old and 44 now, but approached 40, I was like, I don’t want to be 75, eight years old. I wish I’d tried. I wish I’d tried to go after my dreams and do what I’m here to do.
Why do you think it is that we play small often in what we’re doing? We kind of have a small vision and we don’t actually go for our dreams. Is it just because it’s too scary?
Craig Siegel: Really deep conversation, probably not going to go where you originally thought I was going to say, but I would say the ego. And so the ego was called the opponent. Everybody has one, right?
And I think that the ego is a negative force with a positive purpose. It allows us to overcome it so that we have the feeling of earning it. The ego wants us to be born with all this potential and then die with all this potential.
But the ego works for the soul. It’s customized to you, for you. And the one thing that is constant is change.
And so our ego wants us to play small. It wants us to think about what are people going to think about us if I put myself out there, right? What if I look silly?
I mean, if you really think about it, what prevents most dreams from coming to fruition? I don’t even think it’s the fear of failure based on everybody I coach and I teach the feedback that I typically get is the fear of judgment. What if I bad or what if I look silly?
Because if people could try to chase their dreams, like in their own home and nobody would know about it, they would probably go for it, right? But they have this ego thing wants you to play small, not leave your comfort zone. And so one of the whole points of life is to be able to overcome that, right?
And so the way that we overcome that is to identify it and realize that we’re not here to play small. In fact, quite the contrary, our soul is yearning for expansion. It just wants to keep evolving, growing, changing and transforming.
And the one thing our soul actually presents is contraction. And I know that from experience, because towards the end of my whole career, I was no longer having much fun. I was not very connected to it.
And I genuinely felt like my soul was contracting. And I knew that not only was I here for more because I believe we all are, but I knew that if I didn’t try this or at least attempted, I was basically dying a slow death.
Bronson Hill: Yeah.
Craig Siegel: Well, I consider what I like to call the COI, the cost of inaction. And I would rather stepping into the unknown after I was respectfully, I was used to a specific income and lifestyle. For me, I made it so real for myself that I’d literally rather die than go back, play small and be miserable.
And so from that, being able to overcome that very quickly, the fear of the unknown begins to transform into enthusiasm and excitement. So you always have to do work to raise your conscience so that you can identify the ego because the ego is a false self. It’s a lie.
Bronson Hill: Yeah. Yeah. I know, I think it keeps us getting stuck and I think, you know, being willing, you know, life happens when we put ourselves out there.
Really, we don’t know what we’re capable of. We don’t know what’s possible. And that’s where you see people make radical shifts because they, they step out.
Craig Siegel: 100%. And you’ll never know unless you’re brave enough and you have the courage to do that. And look, will it be uncomfortable?
Absolutely. Will there be so much growth? 100%.
Bronson Hill: Yeah, absolutely. I wanted to ask you one more question here and then how people can get in touch that this is a great conversation. But you talk about manufacturing rock bottom, right?
You actually can manufacture a rock bottom experience. Can you talk about what that means about manufacturing rock bottom or instead of just things are going fine or, you know, a lot of times we, we were willing to step out only when things are bad enough. But is there a way of thinking if you’re comfortable to kind of manufacture that in your own life?
Craig Siegel: I think that one of the most dangerous places that anybody could be is things are fine. It’s all right. Where the pain is not severe enough that you want to make radical change.
And like, I even think about me, like for a few years, I knew in my soul brother that something wasn’t right. I was out of alignment. I should be probably doing something else in my life, but it wasn’t bad enough until I ended up manufacturing rock bottoms.
I can’t do this anymore. I have to make a job because I’m basically dying a slow death here. And so the worst thing people could do is to not make big changes with their life just because things aren’t so bad.
I don’t want anybody to settle for just things aren’t so bad. One of my biggest pet peeves is like, when you see somebody, you’re like, how you doing? And look, I understand that every day is a ten out of a ten.
But when someone’s like, oh, you know, just the surviving, what, that’s okay for you to just survive? Like, like, what does it come to that just another day, just trying to make it through the end of the day. Like, look, I know there’s seasons that you went through divorce.
I’ve had my share of things as well. But ultimately that shouldn’t be the default. We should always be paying attention, raising our awareness, our consciousness.
Do we feel in alignment? Does this feel like something that we should be doing? Are we utilizing the gifts that were given to us?
And don’t wait, like I did for a pandemic to really make a radical change. Create the time that we spoke about earlier in this conversation. I like to call it white space, reassess, ask yourself with tough questions.
And then ultimately, what I love to ask myself and I tell everybody this is whether things are going really good or things are going not really good. Always ask yourself, what else is possible? Something very powerful about questions.
In fact, when you ask questions, you really connect it to, I would say, creator, God source, the vlogies, whatever is good for your listeners. That’s when you’re really connected. When you have all the answers are actually not connected.
That’s much more ego. So you always want to check in with yourself and ask yourself questions.
Bronson Hill: I love it. I love the idea of living from possibility where you’re not simply looking at life. It’s so easy to look at life as life today is going to be the same as yesterday.
And tomorrow is going to be the same as today versus like, well, what is possible? Right. And you get around people and that’s where getting around different people are getting around different environments.
It can really pull you up because any around people, they don’t look at, you know, limitations the same way that anything really is possible. And so that’s that is very contagious. Oh, Craig, I want to just say, I really appreciate your you’re a very motivational guy, man.
You’ve really done all kinds of amazing things, investor, speaker, you know, it’s your book, encourage everybody to check it out, the reinvention formula. And just really wanted to, I’m actually really looking forward to be on your show as well. But how can people get in touch with you, follow what you’re doing and reach out?
Craig Siegel: Yeah, first of all, I love the conversation, but I look forward to building a relationship and going deeper with you. Anywhere you listen to a podcast, the CLS Experience, anywhere you buy books, the reinvention formula, social media accuracy, go on the score CLS. And if you like inspirational, free nuggets right the week, little, little nuggets of wisdom, you could join our texting community.
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Bronson Hill: Awesome, Craig. Well, great to have you today. Thanks so much.
Looking forward to being on your show. I appreciate all your value you’re adding to people. Thank you, brother.
Craig Siegel: Thanks, man.
Bronson Hill: Okay, awesome interview. Really love Craig.
He’s awesome. You can see just very inspirational really has gone from, hey, how do I get out of this job? How do I get out of what I’m doing to really do what I feel I’m here to do?
But then he really gets into a lot of spirituality. And most a lot of people that wouldn’t become very successfully often will say, hey, what really what’s the point of all this? What’s the purpose behind it?
You know, faith can look different for different people. And so for me, I just think it’s so important to have those conversations and take those step backs of, hey, do the work and then step back and say, am I getting the results I want? Because you can get stuck in just the mire of the day to day.
And so, you know, what I try to do in my business now is I try to do work and I try to take full days off, you know, during the week, I take a fair number of days last year. I think I took 145 days, but that work. And I was like, how do you take that time off?
And I said, well, I need to, I need to be able to have the time to be able to work in the business and to take time out and really reflect. And so whatever you do for work, well, even if you’re retired, are you giving yourself time and space to say, am I getting the results out of my life that I want? And if not, then it’s so important that you take that time for yourself.
And there’s books I love like The Gap and the Gain is a great book that talks about this. There’s really a lot of books that talk about this, but I’d love to know from you, if what you got out of this interview, I thought it was great. I think it’s great talking about wealth, but it’s also important talking about the wealth of life, right?
Having time, having financial freedom, but really time freedom to really pursue the things that you’re here to do. So thanks for taking the time to educate yourself. We’ll look forward to seeing you on the next episode of The Mailbox Money Show.
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